Charlie Holiday now has 3 books, completely new titles, and even new book covers. What’s next? We sat down for a quick interview.
We managed to get 17 minutes with Charlie Holiday to ask him, “So. Now what?”
Interviewer (I): Charlie Holiday, great to have you here.
Charlie Holiday (CH): Wherever “here” is, but yeah, OK. Great to be here.
I: OK, whatever.
CH: So, do you have questions?
CH: Are you going to ask them?
I: What’s with all of the gambling stuff on the covers? You planning on opening a casino?
CH: Yes. Next question.
CH: You asked.
I: Would you like a cappuccino or something?
CH: Is that really your next question?
I: I’ll get it in a minute. What’s up with the gambling?
CH: Here’s one of the definitions, “the absence of any cause of events that can be predicted, understood, or controlled.” I mean, how cool is that?
CH: Here’s another, “an opportune or favorable time.” But be careful, it’s not all candy store. There’s also this, “an unfortunate event; mishap.” “Mishap” sounds like it could be as simple as dropping your phone on a marble floor or you getting ripped apart by hyenas as your safari guide is frying eggs and bacon on the savannah.
CH: “Oh?” That’s your interviewer response? Did you go to interviewer school?
CH: I’ll help you. Ask me what the covers mean.
I: What do the covers mean?
CH: It’s all about chance. The word is bursting with meaning and hidden definitions and power. “Chance of a lifetime.” I mean, who doesn’t want that? But what if you miss the chance of a lifetime? Do you get another chance? Then do you get another? Wouldn’t it be that if you had the one single chance of a lifetime then, by definition, you would only have one of those?
I: I see what you mean.
CH: Then there’s stuff like taking chances, a chance of rain, on the off chance. There’s just so much to play with. It’s going to be fun.
I: Is fun part of your future plans?
CH: Fun is my future plan.
I: Excellent plan.
CH: My bigger plans are to spread it to others–just as those have spread it to me.
I: Sounds like there’s nothing holding you back.
CH: Well, I wish it were so easy.
I: What’s the problem?
CH: It’s not that there’s a violent international organization threatening me, but, well, it’s close.
CH: In fact, it’s even scarier. It’s even more dangerous.
I: Who are they?
CH; Yes, you.
I: But I’m all for what you’re about. I’m with you, not against you.
CH: Want to know who else is against me?
I: Yes, please.
I: OK, I give up.
CH: It’s not exactly Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde …
CH: But worse.
CH: Do you know the saying, “I’ll believe it when I see it?”
I: Of course.
CH: We go by, “I’ll see it when I’ll believe it.”
I: I think I get the difference.
CH: That’s what we’re up against. Or rather, who we’re up against. Those of us, in fact, those within us, who are against us.
I: You’re fighting against yourselves?
CH: More or less.
I: How do you do that?
CH: I don’t know yet.
I: Can I help?
CH: You just did.
CH: By asking, by talking with me, by listening, by thinking about it, by taking a step towards believing.
I: It sounds like you’re running a cult.
CH: If the cult is only to seek out a sixth sense and a deeper joy and spread love throughout the world, sign me up.
I: I thought you were an accountant.
CH: I am. But we can be that–and we can be more. It’s not a zero-sum game. That’s just it. There’s more and then there’s more.
I: Where do I sign?
CH: I don’t know.
I: No, really.
CH: No, really.
I: How can I become a part of it?
CH: If I knew, I would tell you.
I: How did you get involved?
CH: It started in Florence.
I: In Italy?
I: Do I need to go there?
I: So what do I need to do?
CH: Be open for it. Keep aware. Not necessarily through your eyes or ears, but just ready for a sign of some sort. For me, it started in a cafe cellar.
I: I see.
CH: I hope I see you.
I: I hope so too.
CH: There’s a good chance.
I: On the off chance.
CH: A good chance.
I: Thanks, Charlie.
CH: You’re welcome.